"Ed Jay" <edMbj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >>> John Wheaton scribed:
>>>
>>>>"Icono Clast" <IClast@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>>You can blame The US President for the reasons you list as causes for
>>>>>the cancellation.
>>>>
>>>>In spring of 2006 Diane Pelosi promised that if the Democrats were put
>>>>back
>>>>in charge of Congress and the Senate that they, the Democrats would
then
>>>>bring the price of Gas back down.
>>>>
>>>>In November of 2006 the Democrats won back the House and the Senate
and
>>>>Diane Pelosi was elected Speaker of the House.
>>>>
>>>>Since then the price of Gas has more than doubled.
>>>>
>>> You don't suppose that now that the USA has gone from the wealthiest
>>> nation
>>> to the biggest debtor nation because of Bush's ill-conceived and
>>> executed
>>> war, that the Dollar's low value has anything to do with it, do you?
>>> --
>>> Ed Jay (remove 'M' to respond by email)
>>
>>Bush's missteps have no bearing on the Pelosi's told for the Dems to get
>>control back. She knew damn well that there was nothing that she and her
>>cohorts could/would do to bring down the cost of gas.
>
> Pelosi et al told us they would stop the war, which would have prevented
> much of the rise in oil prices, as the resulting Dollar wouldn't have
> fallen
> as much as it has. Had the Republicans in Congress not thwarted the Dems
> efforts to end the war, yada yada...you know the argument. In any event,
> the
> fault doesn't fall to Pelosi or the Democrats, it remains with the
current
> administration.
Pelosi and other Dems firmly stated that they would bring DOWN the cost of
Gas and they have not. They have done STOPPED anything that has come along
that would bring prices down.
> BTW, I'm no fan of Pelosi. I wish I lived where I could help vote her
out.
There's something we are in agreement on.
>>If anything their
>>failure to allow drilling in many areas where there are huge amounts of
>>oil,
>>add any new refineries or extend tax credits for solar and wind research
>>are
>>all putting pressure that are raising energy prices even more.
>>
> New refineries haven't been constructed for some 30 years. Nevertheless,
> they are still only at 80% capacity. We don't need new refineries, nor
do
> the oil companies want to build them.
I have a number of stories that have stated refineries running at capacity
a
number of times over the last few years, and anytime there have been any
problems at at refineries, prices jump. More refineries would effect the
cost of Gas.
As to not drilling in certain other
> places, ecological reasons continue to take precedence, as many of us
> believe they should.
There are some spots here in Santa Barbara County where they are able to
hit
oil pockets at sea, while slant drilling from land. It works and there are
many places including here, where new drilling is not being allowed.
ANWAR has become a red herring for the "Ecosfreaks".
The same "Ecofreaks" that said the pipeline in Alaska would wipe out Elk &
Moose and their numbers are now UP dramatically.
The same "Ecofreaks" that have screamed and fought Nuclear power and now
the
even original founder of Greenpeace has said that science is AGAINST what
the "Ecofreaks" state. France gets over 80% of their power through
nuclear.
The same "Ecofreaks" that said the spotted owl can only grow in old growth
forrest until a familiy of owls was found living in a Kmart sign.
There have been plans preposed that would be using less than 1000 acres
out
of over a MILLION acres, So less than 1% of the land being used to drill,
99% stays pristine, plus they can, and have sworn to be able to completely
remove any footprint after they are done. Even if that were faulty, again
99% remains pristine!
Between 1) nuclear, 2) ANWAR, 3) off shore and the 4) new finds in the
Dakotas we could be independent of any Mid-East oil. The first 3 items
that
absolutely would reduce energy prices have been fought by Pelosi, who
again
promised lower Gas prices and has fought everything that has come through
Congress that could do what she promised.
Tax credits? Do we have any idea the magnitude of tax
> credits already provided to the oil companies? Exxon made $14 billion
> profit
> in the 1st quarter of 2008. You want to give them more tax credits?
Go back a read what I wrote, it's tax credits for SOLAR and WIND power
that
have NOT been extended and will be ending, and there was a piece in the NY
Times today about that.
> At any rate, it doesn't seem to me to make a lot of sense to blame
Pelosi
> or
> the Democrats for high gasoline prices.
If I make a promise to you and don't perform it would be my fault, but in
this case it wasn't that Pelosi didn't perform, she FOUGHT everything that
would reduce prices on energy.
Pelosi flat out lied about being able to reduce the price of Gas,
especially
when she has been an impediment to any legislation that COULD bring down
the
price.
> Meet me at the Bicardi party. Let's tip a couple, and then discuss this
> further. :-))
Sounds good..:0)
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