Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Dance > Dance > Re: Swingin' @ ...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 10 of 18 Topic 10494 of 11349
Post > Topic >>

Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008

by Paul-Andre Panon <ppanon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 05:56 AM

John Wheaton wrote:
>>> Bush's missteps have no bearing on the Pelosi's told for the Dems to
get
>>> control back. She knew damn well that there was nothing that she and
her
>>> cohorts could/would do to bring down the cost of gas.
>> Pelosi et al told us they would stop the war, which would have
prevented
>> much of the rise in oil prices, as the resulting Dollar wouldn't have 
>> fallen
>> as much as it has. Had the Republicans in Congress not thwarted the
Dems
>> efforts to end the war, yada yada...you know the argument. In any
event, 
>> the
>> fault doesn't fall to Pelosi or the Democrats, it remains with the
current
>> administration.
> 
> Pelosi and other Dems firmly stated that they would bring DOWN the cost
of 
> Gas and they have not. They have done STOPPED anything that has come
along 
> that would bring prices down.
So since you're willing to blame them for factors outside of their 
control, presumably you'll be happy to credit them when the price of oil 
drops back again, due to cir***stances outside their control?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7378175.stm

Increase in global demand (mainly in China and India) has a lot more to 
do with the rising commodity price of crude oil than anything US 
politicians have any control over. While Chavez is an asshat, Venezuela 
has historically been a big oil supplier for the USA and Pelosi couldn't 
exactly predict the Bush administration would add fuel to that fire. 
Falling dollar, which will eventually impact all im****ted consumer 
goods? Hmm, who passed the tax cuts that caused huge deficits while 
waging an unnecessary war and led to lack of investor confidence again? 
Who mismanaged the mortgage industry, leading to a meltdown of the 
housing market, a worldwide credit crunch, and a major USA recession?

The current price of crude isn't sustainable since other sources like 
coal liquefaction became feasible at the $70/barrel mark. It just takes 
time to build plants and ramp up production. The odds were in Pelosi's 
favour that she would be able to take credit for that but, surprise, 
surprise, she underestimated the current administration's ability to 
truly screw things up.

Yeah, the current price of gas is higher, but it's nothing compared to 
the prices that are prevalent in Europe and other countries that aren't 
net petroleum ex****ters. 
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/01/news/international/usgas_price/?postversion=2008050109
I feel very sorry for the people that are just scraping by and who are 
being hurt badly by this coming on top of the drop in housing prices, 
but maybe there will be a few less unnecessary SUVs and trucks being 
driven around in another couple of years.

P-A
 




 18 Posts in Topic:
Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Icono Clast <IClast@[E  2008-04-29 16:00:36 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
"John Wheaton"   2008-04-30 00:04:05 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Ed Jay <edMbj@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 08:00:41 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
"John Wheaton"   2008-04-30 13:11:34 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Ed Jay <edMbj@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 14:04:26 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
"John Wheaton"   2008-04-30 15:20:54 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Ed Jay <edMbj@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 15:57:24 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
"John Wheaton"   2008-04-30 18:37:09 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Ed Jay <edMbj@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 18:48:37 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Paul-Andre Panon <ppan  2008-05-02 05:56:26 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Paul-Andre Panon <ppan  2008-05-02 17:30:56 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
"John Wheaton"   2008-05-04 20:54:36 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
memiki <memiki@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 21:38:30 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
memiki <memiki@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 21:43:05 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Jim Janney <jjanney@[E  2008-05-01 09:46:36 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
christineelowitt@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 00:53:01 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Icono Clast <IClast@[E  2008-05-02 03:15:39 
Re: Swingin' @ Sea Baltic Capitals Cruise 2008
Icono Clast <IClast@[E  2008-05-02 03:20:44 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan12V112 Fri Nov 21 3:31:40 CST 2008.